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With so much drama in the crypto scene, it's kind of hard being Leicester D-O double G, but I somehow some way keep pumping out podcast hits like every single day. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Leicester. I'm your host and I'm disappointed in more of the drama that's coming out specifically with the so-called SHIB Army, the SHIB ecosystem. There's more that's happening and this is going to cause some problems and I'm not going to dig into.

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legitimacy of some of it, although I will say that there is some factual data backing some of this and it ties to the price depression across the SHIB ecosystem by which across means SHIB, BONE, LEASH. Now, Shytoshi Kusama, there are fans of his and there are dissenters, people that don't believe in him. And I've been doing coverage

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at CryptoTalkRadio.net. And by the way, our domain, we're getting a new domain. That's gonna be coming out. You're gonna hear my little blurb change. But I've been talking about SHIB since 2021 now. Can you believe it? I was on Reddit. I was talking to people on Reddit that didn't understand that it took Doge years to get to a point, positive price. And as I was watching the ecosystem over time, I've been pretty consistent

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All SHIB really has to work with is its community. And if you heard what I said with volt, once you lose the community, you've lost the plot with Shibarium and the announcement about a cologne scented book, I think that was the start of problems, but then later she told, she came out and essentially said, he didn't say it directly, but he essentially said time to start going after shillers, doot doot doot. He didn't straight say that, but that's what he implied.

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And that was disappointing because they never needed to do that before. If somebody was advocating for SHIB, it's because they liked it, because they wanted to do that because they supported it. And I'm a member of the SHIB Army. I have been a member of SHIB army consistently. Now, to be fair, I bought, I sold, I bought back and forth, whether it was SHIB, LEASH or BONE I've kind of interplayed them. And it really goes to where I think certain ones are being focused on.

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There was some chatter happening over this past week that people think, which I laughed at, people think that Shytoshi doesn't support or care about ship and bonus is focused. The reason was around the name service and other services that were coming out that really needed Bone to do them. Bone is the gas token, but the, and when I did my other coverage on video, I said that ultimately

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Initially, they said SHIB was going to be the gas token and the central and even to this day, those behind SHIB have said SHIB is the key. It's what makes it all work. But then they shifted to where BONE became that. And I said that at the time, this is a discord. They said, we can't, we can't really do anything with SHIB because all the exchanges hold it. It's out of our control. It's being controlled by outside factors, which harm sentiment. Everything that's been done so far now.

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to me solidified what they said, which is that bone is pretty much to go forward now because there's nothing they can do with ship. Later they talked about a burn tied to Shibarium transactions that's happening. There's no real transaction Shibarium doesn't do anything at this point. They expect that it will. But right now it does not. Well, I was browsing the other day and I saw a bunch of people talking about basically they were saying what I've been saying for over a year now.

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The focus is no longer ship, but there were other people that were ever pissed off. As I said, and nobody gave me, gave my credit, but people were pissed off saying, no, SHIB is basically the community token. SHIB is not owned by anybody individually. And so we're going to buy more SHIB. We're not going to buy Bone. We're not going to buy leash because we feel their scams. And so we want him, Shytoshi to focus on SHIB and get SHIB back in order.

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I did a video and I actually just put it on other platforms and I shared it on social media. But essentially I said that burning ships not going to do nothing for years. You're toast unless the community is willing to burn one trillion per day for a year to kind of get caught up and then let the FOMO kind of kick in and let the price go from there. Community is not willing to do that. Ship burn, which is a different service by an individual that was in the community. It's not an official something. It's different service.

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they actually built this portal where people can burn their shiv. Nobody really uses it. No matter what I said, if the community doesn't do the burn, you're not going to get anywhere. It's not going to happen. And shiv is basically toast, at least for the lifetimes of those listening to this right now. Well, these people are not really happy with the truth, which is, which they acknowledge. Shytoshi and Lucie and everybody else, they're not talking, they're not really focused on shiv from a development perspective because they can't, there's nothing they can do.

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They've got to focus in some of the way and they've got to get more transactions through Shibarium . They've got to get more interest on that because they're trying to use that to help burn the supply. If you think about it, it's a very similar quandary as what Luna Classic is tussling with now for the same reason. Supply is out of control. With supply out of control, there's nothing they can really do. The difference is they're not really dead. It's simply that the tokens are in people's hands.

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So if people sit on it, it's not going to be circulating. The one that's circulating, it's not that much. And you can only burn through Shibarium if they're actually transacting on Shibarium , which they're not. So I think what, at some point, people decided, Shytoshi et al., they decided to go all in on whatever it took to get Shibarium to the point of being an engine to help burn Shib in the cross-finger's hopes that it would eventually highlight

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what they were doing increased sentiment, which may encourage people to buy into the other tokens because you have to do it to transact. Well, I'm not sure. And I said multiple times, I'm not sure that they understand they meaning Shytoshi and others, I'm not sure they understand how sentiment works. Their messaging largely in discord has repeatedly been the same. Just trust us at some point to work out where folks on the right things.

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This is what we need to be doing and the community has to help. They've consistently said the same things. So when he talked about going out to shillers, my mind was blown because I had never been part of the messaging before and I don't think it's going to work again. Anybody who supports it's already covering it. Okay. If you don't support it, you're not going to cover it. And if you're going to pay people to cover it, that's the wrong incentive. Cause what you're doing there is potentially causing cell pressure. If they get a bunch of tokens, they're just going to dump off of it. Guaranteed. That's what shillers do.

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So I went back on to my dissatisfaction. I went back on, cause I was looking around and I saw some more sentiment pieces. Shib Burn, the one that did the project and has been largely pretty supportive of the ecosystem. To date, he's changed. They have changed. I can't say it's a he. They have changed. They put out a pretty lengthy thread. This thread should be disturbing to anybody that actually reads it.

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But at the same time, you should resonate with what they're trying to say. I think because it's an important message. I'm not going to read all of it. I'm going to read the highlights on this business. This is on a X slash Twitter quote. Shib burn was the first actual project to launch for SHIB a month and two weeks before she was swapped. Why are they saying that the SHIB evolution started with a sushi swap for stop? So there's two things there. Number one.

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should burn preceded what we currently know of as Shiba Swap. Two, Shiba Swap is apparently a fork of Sushi Swap. Sushi Swap has been around for a long time and there's more about that second. But I want to talk about the first. Back at this time, right, burning became a thing because after they talked about the impact of burn when the idiot Vitalik burned half.

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Burn, burn, burn, the burns, the word became the highlight and should burn becomes a thing. I said that ShibaSwap is garbage, it has been garbage since it launched and even now remains garbage. And when Ryoshi's Vision was supporting some part of it, you know, where you would stake and you would get Ryoshi Vision tokens and other tokens, apparently that was managed by the Ryoshi's Vision's team. And what we found out, and this was all through Reddit.

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What we found out is apparently it was one guy every month who had to go in and click the button to get the rewards to distribute. Well, then the guy would get sick or he has a family issue or something else. They could never automate it or didn't want to. So they can never get the rewards to automatically distribute. It always was this one guy turns delays after delays. Sometimes it would go two months, sometimes it go three months. Eventually they fire the Ryoshi Visions people and get them out of the way.

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The rewards, there's no real rewards. There's staking rewards now, but they're a joke compared to what you had before. But ShibaSwap, from the moment I first touched it, was garbage in terms of what it did. A lot of people use it because they're trying to help the ecosystem, but it's garbage as a swap. It's nowhere close to any of the other ones, even SushiSwap, let's be honest, it's nowhere close to any of the other swaps out there. It's always been garbage. What I didn't know because I didn't do research into it at the time,

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was that it was a fork of sushi swap. Do I think that's a bad thing? Not necessarily, but if they forked it off and then never improved it, which is what I did see, that would be very concerning. Quote, perhaps they think their projects are the only ones that matter. Sorry, but you don't get to ignore that part of ship's history. They didn't like the attention we gained before and tried to stop us around the end of August 2021 by running a campaign against us that said no to burns.

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where many started calling us scammers and all sorts of names. They dare talk about FUD. That's interesting. Stop. So the timeframe he's referring to was right around the period where they said, they adamantly said, burn is not the answer. We need utility. We need use case. We need the community actually engage. That message has continued, especially from Lucie. Communities got it. You got to play ball. It's not about burns. You got to play ball. It was not about burns. You got to play ball.

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They've been consistent in that message. When ship burn was being pushed, not by them, but just in general on social media, it was a pushback from the shib team around the concept of burns. Because essentially what you're doing is you're burning your own wealth, which is true. What I said in my video is it's the only way that you're going to get any increase of value across the board because there's too much damn supply, which is the fault of the people who launched the token, who to be fair is not Shytoshi.

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So this is something he inherited as a member of the community and has largely been heralded as the leader or the guiding force behind it, trying to realize a vision that was born years ago that I suspect is not sustainable in the current, especially with the amount of supply that you have. And you have to get realistic in terms of the supply that needs to be there, as in you've got to get rid of the excess supply, whether the devs do it or the community does it. Whether we like it or not is not the point.

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The supply is too damn high. Nobody disagrees with this. For whatever reason, they have it in their mind that the high supply is necessary for a greater adoption at a worldwide level. I question that thought process because Bitcoin has way more adoption than they do with a much heavily constrained supply. That's how you create price demand. So why would you not want the actual price demand that comes with a constrained supply that you know must be the truth because you see Bitcoin and Ethereum

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was a significantly higher price, although those are worldwide traded. Why would you not want that? People suspected there's some ulterior motives behind why they're pushing back on what they see from the ship team. Quote, and I'm skipping parts, but quote, in case you're wondering why Shytoshi even took the time to address quote, FUD yet again, it's because of us. The shib burn. You may remember how we called out for that, we were called out. It's what they meant for the truth.

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Well, she told she felt offended and quickly blocked us, then quickly announced the quote FUD piece. See, she told she tends to hide from the truth a lot. It's why they want anyone who calls them out, quote, the Fudders eliminated. She told she knew they would get properly exposed and wanted to make sure everyone turns a blind eye when it happens and dismiss it as well. You guessed it. Quote FUD . Stop. So let's talk two parts. First of all, just to clarify for those who don't know.

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FUD is false information designed to damage the reputation of something or hold it back. When you're telling the truth, that's not FUD. Now we know that certain devs in certain projects, anytime somebody says something that's critical, they call it FUD. Criticality is not FUD. Criticality is an analysis and an opinion. And in some cases backed by facts cannot be FUD. It is something you don't like to hear and perhaps it damages what you're trying to do. Perhaps what you're trying to do isn't the right strategy to move it forward.

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And that's how the community is perceiving it. This is the same thing with every project. It's not exclusive to SHIB, nor will it ever be, because we see the same thing with Luna Classic. We saw the same thing with Saitama and so on. Whenever the truth comes out and they don't like it, they call it FUD. It's not FUD. If it's the truth, it's the truth. So I didn't know what they were referring to, but SHIB burn continues. Quote, everyone knows I'm a huge supporter of SHIB. The fact that they attacked us and lied for speaking out should stay a lot.

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After reading all the misinformation they're spreading, I have no choice but to answer, call this hashtag Shib files. And then puts a note saying that they're probably not gonna continue posting on X anymore. And they'll still keep the account and the bot and everything, but they're probably not gonna post on X. So allegedly they're quitting X. And I call that out too. I don't know why people just kind of quit the business when something happens. I don't know. I'm not gonna read the specific verbatim.

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of this, just the allegations and implications of what's being said here. The first has to do with the rewards on the burn portal. This is similar to what happened with Ryoshis Vision. Allegedly, you know, I didn't see this, but allegedly some people were saying that they were not getting the rewards through ship burn. Cause when they did the burn allegedly supposed to get rewards as part of this. Allegedly there was a holder that was suicidal, burnt $5,000 of their cash.

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thinking that they were going to get rewards and they did the burn because they felt misled by the ship team. Listen, I wanna just say this. If you're in the SHIB army, and you, I said don't YOLO into any damn thing. Stop throwing all your money at stuff and certainly stop letting online anything trigger you to the point of being suicidal. That, I'm saying

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does nobody any good. It doesn't do you any good. It doesn't do your family any good. It doesn't do society any good. You should not be suicide. If you, if you're suicidal over numbers on a blockchain, I'm asking you to seek help because something's wrong. You should not ever get to that point. Either you put too much money in or you're too invested in this and you need to get offline. Put the phone down. I would even turn it off. Turn the phone off. Go out to the park with your dog.

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and walk around and enjoy life because you should not be suicidal over cryptocurrency or anything online. It doesn't do anybody any good. I'm asking, I'm saying that boggles my mind why anything of an online something is making you suicidal. That means you're spending too much time online. That means you've gone too far. And allegedly this person was suicidal because they quote, believed in the teens promises of passive income.

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Why? Why? Why? First of all, let's, let's say that promises a passive were made. I didn't see that. Let's say it was. Are we seriously saying you're going to be suicidal because some faceless people online promised you passive income when you could go down to your bank and get passive income from a CD. You could go down and get passive income from stock. You could go and invest in real estate. You could go and invest in anything else and make passive income.

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And you refuse to do that, but because of cryptocurrency and the FOMO effect, it turns you suicidal when you don't get it from faceless people that you have no reason to trust them. This is what my impassioned plea is. Why, why don't do this? Do not do this. This is why the US government thinks they need to protect people. Because there are people that are being influenced by faceless nobodies and they're being scammed. The answer is not to lock crypto down.

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The answer is for you to turn your phone off and enjoy life and understand this is a game. This is it's a game. It's a dangerous game. It's a dangerous game if you allow it to get to that point. So I was disappointed seeing that part of it. Quote, notice how I always had disclaimers and never suggested that anyone burn their own money. They were encouraging it. This is something they still have on their site and is now useless. Something they're responsible for.

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but had the audacity to mention a $2 million insurance after the botched Shibarium launch stopped. So when Shibarium was launched, there was the announcement, we're gonna insure funds. This was around the whole funds being locked on the chain. And they said there's an insurance and we're gonna make sure people's money is not lost. Wow. Whoa. Once everyone starts opening their eyes, then you'll see why we chose to speak up. I'm doing this on behalf of all those holders that have reached out. Those who were misguided, encouraged by this team.

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burn their own money. Over 2200 people who spent $670,000 in that portal, but only a handful of people received some rewards for just that first round. This is just one of the reasons people have called them out. Notice how they want you to ignore what anyone says and tell you that all they want to do is create fear to get people to sell them by the dip. While I never suggested anyone to sell, I didn't create shit burn until I still have fear in people, so are you going to label me a fudder as well? Stop.

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Now we're going to spin over to the origins of this business, where this all came from as I wrapped this up. And there'll be a couple of points, but I want to wrap this up because a lot of the rest of this is really a rant. Quote, a month ago, ironically, they were the ones spreading quote, FUD about us right about when we exposed the truth about Ryoshi. It needed to be said, especially when people claim that we're quote, not part of ship army because we didn't support quote his vision. This time they resort to blatant lies about us, accusing us of spreading false narratives.

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all while sharing actual misinformation on wallets created by the founders afterward, without mentioning the initial wallets we were talking about. It's concerning to witness how many people quickly place their trust and believe everything they're told without skepticism, or how some blogs quickly cite it with them and dismiss the post as quote, debunked, simply because the quote, official team said so, despite the original source providing a clear explanation. Did they not comprehend the post or understand how the tracking tool works? Most of this went unnoticed, but some people labeled us as fake news.

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Previously they label us as toxic just for saying that they're not the official Ryoshi stop so The allegation made here is around the origins of the Ryoshi, right, the original developer and original developer wallets allegedly dumping off the project that they had. You know stuff that they held back and they were dumping off the project during that period. This spread on coin market cap as an ongoing thing, that allegedly this was an ongoing thing where they're just dumping dumping dumping dumping

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But it goes further. Here's where it got really good. Quote, I learned about Ryoshi after SushiSwap/ShibaSwap, they contradicted themselves many times claiming to not own any ship and to never have owned any. Ryoshi's own words. So now they're quoting a message that was shared somewhere in social media. And so it's a passive quote, quote like, you must be a billionaire now, but the reality is still to this day I own zero SHIB. Why?

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Well, if I did, then I can't be who I am. And for now, I know I have a role to play. I can't be pure and unbiased if I'm worried about price up and price down and taking profits. Don't worry, the great SHIB will reward me in other ways, I guess. Now we're back to Shibburn. And now we find out that Ryoshi, the founders, own over $1 billion, United States dollars, worth of Shib, and moved them to separate wallets in order to hide their tracks. Thanks to the tools offered by Bubble Maps, we're able to see this.

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That's just really what we're aware of. Just know that over 103 trillion Shib, so roughly a fifth of the supply could be burnt right now, but they won't do such thing since they don't want you to know it's them. As soon as they were exposed by Bubble Maps, they tried to hide their tracks. Yet again, I knew Ryoshi was a made up character created by a group of greedy investors looking to profit off this community, therefore created a story looking for more ways to cash in using the ship name and you SHIB token, the main

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social media as their golden goose in order to promote anything they can enrich themselves with. Many of us who invested in SHIB didn't know who they were. When I started this project, I didn't know who these people were. We were basically starting a burn community for SHIB. I only heard about some quote dev working on exchange. Later I discovered Shytoshi is not even a real dev. ShibaSwap's a Sushi fork with no actual changes. They gave themselves a large amount of Bone. So now you get on to the Bone token for that quote, hard work.

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in case you're wondering why she chose it for a gas token and then share screenshots of the code for SushiSwap, which is on Github and ShibaSwap, which is also on Github. And if you look at the code side by side, essentially all you have is just naming changes thing, the Top Dog. So that's that parent contract that's now over Bone is referenced in here as well. And then other things is just basically naming. It's simple naming changes. The structure of the code is largely the same thing. It's essentially the same swap. And then the front end obviously is

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garbage. Quote, this may be the reason why they don't show you Shibarium source, because no actual work was done to their Polygon fork Shytoshi not only lied to us about Shibarium, but also how the Shiboshi funds, so this is the NFT garbage, we're going to be used saying it required 10s of 1000s of dollars in Shytoshi's words, double quote, we've never integrated Polygon we're building our own do you understand what, you're smacking the face of their devs and I remember he said that he said that at the time, this is before the launch of Shibarium.

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He said, no, we're not doing Polygon. We're going to do it ourselves. And then they struggled and then they called the Polygon lead and the Polygon lead helped them spin it up. And it is a Polygon fork. And they were proud of it at one point. Did he come back and say, you know what? I did say that we were not going to do the Polygon fork. Unfortunately, we don't have the skillsets to do it. So we did reach out to Polygon because we want to do this right. He took the ego route. He just basically praised it as a great thing. When people found out in her investor sentiment and then Shibburn quote,

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Where did all the funds go if this is just a fork? Great question. He continues, quote, what I'm witnessing with this quote ecosystem team is completely absurd. Also the things they're feeding the holders about Shibizens. So this is the whole metaverse garbage, Shiba State metaverse or quote the vision and claiming that Shytoshi is quote our leader in what's alleged to be a decent something. It's also mind boggling. And now they're saying that the Shib ecosystem

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is being targeted by coordinated FUD attack. Sure, because any question you have or evidence of any wrong doings is always dismissed as FUD. They do push hard so that you can look the other way. They're now asking for your trust on this quote, Shiba State, they're building where you need to abide by their rules. Seems like Shytoshi has established an indoctrination center for a cult, may have lost their way. So I'm gonna stop because again, the rest of it is really basically a rant summary of everything that we've talked about here.

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The genesis of where Shibburn is really pissed off and frustrated has to do with how this is being presented, how it's being talked about and what's being said. Bottom line is they're talking about that it started with one thing under Ryoshi and then turned into something completely different and then they failed, failed, failed, failed and then they went back on things they said. The claim is that Ryoshi never exists. Was never an individual developer.

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And actually might've been a set of investors who built it in order to influence the community. The reason I decided to put this out and the reason I thought it, it's like the aha for me, tenfold. I did a video and it's out there about the Laika token and the Laika token, whoever was behind that. They wrote a Medium post. I'm pretty sure it was Medium, a Medium post where they were talking about Laika . They were talking about, uh, Kuma. They were talking about Floki and they were talking about Shib.

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And they made allegations that the people behind the Shib token were behind all these other essentially pump and dump dog tokens that spun up during the runs in 2021, right around the time that this all took place. What the allegation is on Shibburn is essentially affirming what the allegation was making under Laika . The idea that there really isn't a person behind all this. And there's really just wealthy people, powerful people

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who are spitting up all these dog tokens in order to take money from people and kind of this linked effectively it's a pyramid scheme, linked scheme to take money from people, well, think of the implications of that if it were true and if we're provable, the implications Shib is probably the last remaining token sitting out there that has any opportunity to mainstream. Let's be honest.

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There's nothing else out there that has the true opportunity to be mainstream worldwide versus SHIB. It was able to make the most impact. And you have to ask the question because the idiot Vitalik was involved there and got a large sum of tokens, which turned around and burned. Turns out he still had some. There's that. Then Ryoshi just disappearing one day. Shytoshi coming out of nowhere. Failure after failure after that happens. A SushiSwap fork that is still garbage, like you never improved it. So you took a thing,

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you never improved it. Shibarium at one point you claim is not going to be a Polygon fork, and then you turn to be a Polygon fork, which is fine. But you don't come out and say, you know what, we didn't have the skill. We're going to do this this way because we're doing it for the investors. It was, of course, it's Polygon . It's stable and it's great. You're you're you're doing everything you can to try to sell the narrative that you know what you're doing. That's OK. But people are starting to... smoke, right? People are starting to detect there's something behind this and this ain't making any sense.

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The whole cologne scented book. People sold the idea that this is to raise money for a thing. Questions are being asked, where's all this money going? If Shibarium was nothing more than a Polygon fork, where'd the rest of the money go? Because if it's a fork, you're probably down in about the six figures now, as opposed to millions of dollars for the mask. Okay, let's say that it is a stable something. Let's say that it was improved to the point that it is usable, nobody's using it because sentiment's been harmed by all the activities that took place. Meanwhile, the theories that some of the owners,

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Owners of this still hold major bags to the tune of a fifth of the total supply. In my video about SHIB and the burn, I said, you got two choices in this matter. And I, I challenge you to check this out because I broke down the math. I said, either the devs had to burn or the community has to burn them saying, so I'm talking Lucie, Shytoshi, et cetera, them saying, burn is not the answer. Causes you to raise the question because they know that the supply is out of control. They know that there's no realistic way.

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You're going to get any positive price movement with the supply as is. So then they burn, they build in burns into Shibarium. Okay, fine. If it's true that the owners still sit on a fifth of the supply, you know what that means? That means that we're not only talking about the 500 trillion that was circulating, that was circulating. Okay. That means that another hundred trillion theoretically could and should be circulating, which increases the number that you'd have to burn off in order to get the price back under control.

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Now it all starts to make sense. Should all of this be provable, which I don't know how you'd be able to, but if anybody could expose data around this, it would be the ShibBurn account because they've been so closely tied to what was going on with the SHIB ecosystem. And I'm curious myself, what's really going on here, right? At the upper level, what's going on here? Because we do know when this was Discord, they straight said, we can't do anything with SHIB. SHIB is, it's toast. It's in other people's hands.

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was that making an allegation around this fifth of the supply being held in other people's hands, sitting above them, were they really referring to this tier of people holding the tokens, not the central exchanges? Now the conversation changes, it shifts, right? And if you're focused on Bone, no problem, Bone is not fully renounced. They said it was, it's not fully renounced what they did, which I understand why they thought it makes sense, but

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The problem is blockchain doesn't lie. What they did is they took the Bone out of their control and put it under the control of another smart contract. That smart contract is ultimately what runs underneath their Dapps, so like ShibaSwap in this case, the Top Dog contract. So then people notice it's not fully renounced because it should be renounced to zero address if you're really fully renounced. It's not fully renounced. So people have been hesitant because they don't see full renounce. Is that the reason then that the central exchanges

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come out to start listing this guy, because if it's a gas token for a layer two, as it's supposed to be, certainly the exchanges would jump on board. Look what happened with Polygon itself, right? But for whatever reason, things have stalled. Things are at a stop. The NFTs start getting pushed, the metaverse gets pushed, all these other things, tertiary things get pushed. Meanwhile, SHIB is not really focused on. BONE appears to be at a standstill, from what we can tell in terms of activity.

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and what we expect should have happened next, which is listing on other exchanges. Because if the only barrier to listing on exchanges was the renouncement of the contract, what is it that those exchanges know that other people do not? In summary, I, as somebody in the SHIB ecosystem, think these are valid questions. And I was intrigued by this quote SHIB files thread. I think some of it's a rant, but I think they're entitled because it is true that they've been there since the beginning.

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They've been there since the very beginning, which possibly might mean there's more that they know. So I'll say this, whoever's behind the Shibburn account, unfortunately them quitting the business is disappointing because I think that you should be a little bit more grown than that. It's their right to do it, it's their account. I think you should be more grown than that. Because to walk away from the situation, it doesn't make you complicit, but it certainly does not help the matter. I think you should be.

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A vocal dissenter, I think you should openly say, I am fighting this. And use your platform, this guy, lady, whoever, has over 300,000 freaking followers, people. They could lend their voice to change. They have, SHIB itself has 200 million holders, they have 300,000 followers, and chances are all of them are at least minor SHIB holders. They could make a difference. They could help drive

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change, the very change that they're advocating. But when you walk away from it, you're not doing the right service to the community. I don't agree with that stance. It is your right to do it. I don't agree that that's the right answer. I think what you should do is say, you're going to use your voice and your platform to the change that you seek, because it affects everybody. And there could be some good that comes out of it, right? How can you expose

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more than what has been exposed. So I'll put the placemat out there. I'll put the welcome mat out there. Shibburn, be you male, lady, or other species. If you want the smoke, I would love to chat with you because I suspect there's pieces that I heard and I saw myself and pieces that you were directly exposed to and collectively we can put together a narrative and put it out there.

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It may be called FUD, I'll emphasize, and we should, we, as in all of us, should use our platform to reinforce to people. FUD is false information designed to damage or harm our reputation. If the information that we put out can be seen and is openly known and it is distributed, this is the problem with Telescam and to a lesser degree discord, because those can be deleted. You can delete the history trail. But there's many people that saw the same thing. Now you take your voice.

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right? The voice that you share to your followers and you put out what you know, what you think, what you believe, what you feel, and you share your opinions to the world and make sure everybody hears it equally. And I'm happy to lend my voice where I can because I am a whale in bone, right? I'm a whale in bone because I believe in Bone itself. Shib, I never believed fully in, and I'm on record on that because I already knew what you've put out here. I already knew

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Ship there's no focus here it has no future as it stands because unless you can get the devs to burn and at the time i said that i didn't know if they did or didn't hold i suspected they didn't i just said that they're either that there's such two options it's binary either they do it or community does it what you're sharing if true means there's an opportunity there that's being squandered so it's up to you i can't make you do anything i can't make anybody do anything

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I'm sharing what I see on this one. I do encourage you to check out Shibburn on X at Shibburn and check out the so-called Shib files and then make up your own mind about what possibly is going on with this business.

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